Extroversion and ego at a UU conference

I read a story once about a famous Chinese musician who was visiting the West, and was taken to a concert hall to hear the finest in European classical music. After the concert, he was asked what piece he liked the best.

– The first one, he said.

– You mean the Beethoven? his hosts asked, humming a few bars of the first piece.

– No, he said, the one before that.

Eventually, they realized he meant the period when the musicians were tuning their instruments.

Something similar happened to me at the conference I went to last weekend. Not exactly the same, since I didn’t actually participate in the full program — I had a lot of homework due Monday, so I skipped a few sessions. And having that over my head made it hard to be fully present while socializing, so I eventually decided I should leave early.

Still, the first experience was the most thought-provoking.

In the opening session Friday night, all 70 or so of us circled up. As an icebreaker, one by one we gave our names, and then made some kind of movement, along with a sound. Then the whole group would repeat the movement and sound.

The naturally outgoing and body-comfortable probably can never understand, but trust me: performance activities like this give introverts nightmares.

Now, I’ve matured enough in my old age that I didn’t try to sneak out of the room (though I confess it did occur to me). But it was still a little challenging. And in particular, it was the repetition of other people’s actions, along with the group, that was the hardest. In this kind of situation, you get feelings like, “This is so stupid — why are we all doing the chicken dance? What if someone sees me?”

I think that last thought is the key to understanding this mindset. It’s a form of egocentrism, really — of all the people in the group, worrying about how you look.

In any case, I eventually tried harder to take part, to get into it. And that’s when the funniest thing happened: the feeling of “what if someone sees me?” completely vanished. It sounds a little cheesy, but in a certain sense I actually felt “at one” with the group, like a “we” more than a “me.” I think that’s what egolessness feels like.

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This, incidentally, highlights one of the differences between liberal Quakers and UUs. There’s a joke I told several times at the conference — that UUs are basically extroverted Quakers.

A lot could be teased out of that (oversimplified) contrast philosophically, but it also seems true in a very straightforward way; you’d never see that icebreaker at a Friends conference, I think. We’re more likely to go around saying our names and what kitchen utensil we’d like to be.

We’re also less likely to form a giant human snake and run outside the building singing minor-key chants, but that’s another subject…

Talking points

  • How would you have felt about an icebreaker game like that?
  • Have you ever felt without ego? What was it like? Do tell.

7 Comments

  1. Michael says:

    As I actually played the game I would like to say that I really did enjoy the icebreaker game and was not aware it could make people feel uncomfortable. I do not believe that I have ever felt as if I were without an Ego, I’m not certain that is even possible – if anyone has do not be offended; I believe such an activity does help us forget out inhibitions and focus on being a community. I think the fact that most of us would consider such behaviour to be out of the ordinary is a good transition for the intent of Wintercon. Most of us would feel trepidation in relating the innermost workings of our lives and minds to complete strangers – which is certainly out of the ordinary as the field of Psychology depends on this to make money – and by doing something out of place we are in effect telling the Superego to take a break.

  2. Hilary says:

    I hear you. Especially on the extroverted Quakers part. Thanks for putting words to that.

    I would add that, for me, the egolessness you describe (or the “we” more than a “me”) is in fact tapping Spirit. But as Katie says, it’s nice when they are both there.

    Thanks for this. I look forward to more…

  3. Zach says:

    Michael,
    I enjoyed it too, both for itself (in the way you did) and for the thoughts it provoked (per above). I love that you weren’t aware that sort of thing is challenging for some people :)

    If I understand you correctly, it’s an interesting way of looking at icebreakers — telling our social conditioning to take a break.

  4. Zach says:

    Hilary, you’re welcome. I appreciated Katie’s comment too.

    By the way, I loved “Hilary Endorses Obama” :)

  5. prinzess maeriwillow says:

    ego is a fun game to play, as long as we remember that its a game. eventually God/dess is going to push the reset button, so we might as well enjoy it while it lasts. in other words, im in the position now of being much more enthusiastic about being a punk rockerstar then being a Zen nun, but nevertheless on a spiritual plane those two things are somehow essentially equal in the grand scope of things.

    i have no idea what the hell im talking about, by the way.

    have a nice day.

  6. Leah Vincent says:

    Beautiful reflection. When I was a Sufi, I had a similar experience with group whirling. Its amazing how we can be and feel things very different then the things we normally identify with.

  7. Robin Mohr says:

    I have done exactly that ice breaker at least twice in Quaker gatherings. One was a children’s group. I am planning to use it at another adult gathering this summer. Maybe west coast Friends are different.

    Robin, an extroverted Quaker.

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